Sunday, October 17, 2010

New pictures of 'Adm. Gorshkov' project 22350 FFG


  1. nice picture thank's

  2. I understand the Black Sea Fleet will receive threee Project 11356 ships. What is the difference between these and the Gorshkov?
    Also, is the slowness of the development of the Gorshkov forcing the navy to adopt ships that are already in serial production.


  3. to Eric^\:
    Pr 11356 has no the double hull enforcement, more simple propulsion (Gorshkov has CODOG), 100 mm instead of new 130 mm gun,
    it has no Poliment AA radar with Redut missiles, more simple FCS, much more simple ASW sonar. Althouth they may decide to max unification, so the equipement may be rather identical with except of propulsion, hull structure and sonar.

  4. Sorry, correction^ Gorshkov has CODAG

  5. BTW, Redut on Gorshkov and 20380 has 9M96 missiles common with S-400 with gas-dynamic thrust vectoring.

  6. Hi Igor!
    How do you see subs in Black Sea Fleet?
    Are they going to be mix of upgraded Kilo's & new Lada's?
    Will Project 11356 & Pr. 20380 going to have Brahmos?
    What kind of philosophy & strategy for the new Russian Navy can be seen in plans of buying new ships?

    For example, does plan for new air-carrier and buying Mistrals puts accent on capacity of global power projection of the future Russian Navy?

    Thanks in advance!

  7. to PAK FA:

    11356 for RU Navy will have the unversal launch system, compatible for Club, Yakhont and Brahmos. They yet decided to buy for them Brahmos as was declared early but it's not excloded for future.

    The blue water fleet program will be decided separately because its high cost, as Medvedev declared. It is included carriers and 1st rank ships building. At least is known the nuclear propulsed cruisers will be returned to service. The question about the carriers, their number displacement and propulsion is open. The new projects are in initial development but yet aprouved by the top. Will be some tender for that too like the declared tender for further corvette.

  8. I find it curious how little information is available on the Gorshkov and its systems compared to the various Western naval frigate designs. For instance there aren't even any news articles regarding the new supposedly AEGIS-standard phased array radar(Poliment-K?) or the new long-range ESSM-comparable SAM.

    Do you have any sources(Russian or English) on these, Igorr?

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